Gwydion Stone

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About Gwydion Stone

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  • Birthday 06/05/1957

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    Gwydion Stone
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    Seattle, WA
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    In licensing process
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  1. Extortion Warning: "Drink Me" Magazine

    Thanks for the update!
  2. Extortion Warning: "Drink Me" Magazine

    Thanks for that, Lexi. I was wondering who the heck these people were. Did you alert the FTC?
  3. Chestnut enhanced corn whiskey

    No worries, I just wanted to put that out there. Personally, I think the times of day should include a BC as well as AM and PM: "Before Coffee"
  4. Chestnut enhanced corn whiskey

    It sounds like an interesting product, but it wouldn't be able to be labeled "straight corn whisky" since it contains HCFBMs. Straight corn whisky must be stored in used or uncharred new oak containers for two years or more.
  5. Firearms in a DSP?

    I know of at least one WA distiller who often packs heat in his own distillery, and I don't know of any laws that specifically prohibit it. But then, what Skip said. If someone carrying makes you nervous (as it does me), put up a discreet sign. Given the nature of the business, I don't imagine you'd get any serious flak about it.
  6. New Forum Log-in Username

    With the latest software upgrade there is a new username policy, not our choice, but the new software: User / Display NamesUsernames and display names have been merged in IPS4. As the administrator, you may select which one to keep during the upgrade process. Please note that this field will be the publicly displayed field for the user. Would you like to retain usernames -or- display names? We opted to use the display name since it was already in place and public, and it's how we're all known to each other on the board already. This means that you will log in using your password and whatever username shows on your posts. Sorry for any confusion or inconvenience. Cheers, Gwydion
  7. My Simple License Issue Proposal

    I agree with Holly. Count me in. "I propose a Washington Distiller's effort to redefine what craft means to our community." I realize that this pig may already be out of the pen, but I'd like to see the term "craft" dropped from legislative language altogether, in favor of of the term "micro", if there has to be a distinction. It has no business there because, as we've seen over the last eight years, it's as subjective as religion. Legislating the definition of "craft" is like legislating the definition of "love". Literally. I'd be grateful to serve on the committee, if you'll have me.
  8. "Matt suggested that he thinks the best play would be getting a couple of different distilleries to consider leasing space as a tasting room of sorts and perhaps sharing back of house equipment for small batch production." Interesting. How would that work in terms of permitting and compliance? Co-op LLC?
  9. Mail Order retail sales

    Depending on order size, I found these guys to be pretty cheap.
  10. Forum Guidelines and Rules of Engagement

    The Wormwood Society's rules and terms of participation. Keep in mind these were written for a very different audience, public absinthe enthusiasts, not professional members of a trade association. Also, this is a community that was unused to any sort of organized moderation at the time these rules were introduced. 1. Read the Absinthe FAQ and search the forums before asking questions. 2. Be Polite. Have Respect. Be nice, or go away. 3. Spell-check; use the shift key (capitalize). Refrain from chat-speak; Don't quote the previous post. 4. No flaming; No Trolls; No Sock Puppets (aliases). 5. Respect Privacy. 6. Try To Stay On Topic. 7. No Political or Religious Debates or Gibes. 8. Be Hospitable to Newcomers 9. NO SPAM. Don't join this forum just to sell things. 10. No Hobbyist Distilling Discussion. This isn't the place for it, is. 11. No Offensive Avatars or Signatures. They'll be removed at the admins' discretion. The moderation team has the ability, right and responsibility to edit, move, lock, or delete offensive or inappropriate posts. If you don't want your immortal, classic wit tampered with, make sure it's within these guidelines as explained below. 1. Read the Absinthe FAQ (link at top of every page) before posting and especially before asking questions. If you don't, you'll most likely ruffle some feathers by asking very frequently asked (and answered) basic questions. This is extremely annoying. It's fine if you need to ask for elaboration, or directions to references. Just don't come here asking which brand has the most thujone. If you feel the need to challenge the established "conventional wisdom" or to ask for validation of it, do so in a respectful manner. If you have a question not covered in the FAQ, use the search function on both the main site and the forums. Chances are, your question has been covered somewhere. Be creative with your search terms. A list of other common questions which have been discussed is appended below. These will be added to the FAQ eventually. 2. Be Polite. Have Respect. This doesn't mean we can't joke around or be witty and sarcastic, it just means that you should keep it fun. Don't be mean or nasty. Keep profanity within due bounds - i.e. try to refrain altogether. A little innuendo goes a long way; there's no need to be vulgar and explicit. If you want to get rowdy, that's fine, but there are other places to do it. This is a place for people who like absinthe and/or want to learn more about it, not for hooliganism. Neither is it a mosh pit, rave, 1337 h4XX0r chat room or online gaming arena. If you have knowledge to share, do so with respect for those who are new to this area of study. Difference of opinion is to be expected; belligerence and berating someone for theirs is not. If you have information which is contrary to the currently accepted knowledge, theories, etc. you should expect resistance at first, so come armed with solid facts, scientific evidence, and citations. Mere opinions and under-informed reasoning will just muddy the water. 3. Spell-check, use the shift key (capitalize), refrain from chat-speak; don't quote the previous post. Please be thoughtful and make an effort to use proper punctuation, capitalization, spelling and grammar. Since this isn't a real-time, teen chat room, you have the time to check for errors as well as the ability to edit a post once it's made. Using good writing habits is courteous and projects a more credible image of the writer. People who appear to be illiterate are seldom taken seriously. Safari users can go to Edit > Spelling > Check Spelling As You Type. Firefox checks spelling automatically. Also, please refrain from quoting the previous post. This has the effect of repeating the last thing someone says to you in a conversation before your own response (echolalia). 4. No Flaming; No Trolls; No Sock Puppets (aliases). This includes newbie flaming or hazing. We're here to learn, educate, socialize and have fun; flaming promotes none of these. Disagreements happen, and we welcome diverse opinions and tastes, but personal attacks will not be tolerated. The admins are adept at detecting sneaky jabs, so don't. Puppets (secret aliases) have no place here either. 5. Respect Privacy. Privacy is important here. Information posted here may not be posted elsewhere without the express permission of the author. Public posting of information communicated in confidence is seriously frowned upon and may result in suspension or banning. 6. Try To Stay On Topic. This is not strictly enforced here, but please try to steer things back occasionally. The admins or mods will move topics into the appropriate forum if necessary. If a topic or thread becomes offensive or far off topic, it may be either deleted, locked, split, or moved. Do not hijack another poster's thread with nonsense. If you're not interested in the topic, skip it. Threads that start out as complete nonsense may be exempt from this rule. 7. Do Not Debate Politics and Religion. Two topics are considered strictly and permanently off-topic here: Partisan Politics and Sectarian Religion. We're referring here to Republican/Democrat, Conservative/Liberal, Christian/Muslim/Jew, Mac/Windows, and particularly any form of belligerent nationalism, ethnocentrism, or racism. There are other venues which allow these discussions, but it is most often the case that they generate more heat than light. This doesn't mean that the very mention of these topics is forbidden, but when a discussion veers toward discussing the relative merits of a given position, it's time to gently change the subject. This includes inter-forum politics. This refers to the inflammatory sentiments regarding differences in policy and operations of the respective absinthe forums. They are irrelevant here. [For new folks: there has been a history of disgruntled cross-forum members who were dissatisfied with the differences between different forum's policies and who made quite a bit of noise about it some years ago. Our position on this is that this is like complaining about two restaurants having different music, food, drinks, ambiance or dress codes. You should frequent the place that suits your taste and where you're most comfortable.] 8. Be Hospitable to Newcomers. Newcomers deserve our hospitality and the benefit of the doubt until clearly demonstrated otherwise. You are not required to respond to anyone, so if you don't feel like being hospitable, be neutral. There are always going to be difficult people. If a particular member simply annoys you, just ignore them (there is an ignore member feature in your control panel). If a member is abusive directly toward you or another member, please use the Report link at the lower right of each post. 9. NO SPAM. Don't join our forum just sell things. Even if they're things you think that we will like, or want. If you don't have a sincere personal interest in absinthe you don't belong here. Well-known vendors are welcome to post about new product availability and members may solicit swaps or offer collectibles for sale in the Marketplace section. New members: it's best to wait a while before looking for a buyer for something. Contact an admin if you are unsure about this. 10. No Hobbyist Distilling Discussion. That means avoiding any indications, either direct or by innuendo, that you yourself are practicing, intend to practice, or are interested in practicing illicit, unlicensed distilling; we don't want to know about it. If you need to be told why publicly admitting to committing a felony offense is a bad idea, you're too foolish and reckless to be here. There are anonymous distillation discussion boards out there. While there are a small number of hobbyists around the world producing non-commercial absinthe, there are few, if any, which are producing at anywhere near what could be considered commercially viable volume. They generally produce absinthe in very small batches of one to several liters. Keep in mind, these folks are hobbyists, very much like home brewers and wine makers. Out of fairness to US hobbyists, this rule applies also to folks who live in the very few countries in the world where home distilling is legal. 11. No Offensive Usernames, Avatars or Signatures. Please keep it sociable. Your user name probably says more about you than you realize. An avatar (user pic, icon, what-have-you) or signature is there to say a little something extra about yourself and should not be used to bludgeon people's eyes. Finding the most objectionable image possible for an avatar in order to provoke an emotional response seems to have become an internet art form. We reserve the right to delete offensive or intentionally provocative images. You can upload one or link from elsewhere. We actually encourage the use of your real name (John Smith, J Smith, John S, etc.) and a real photo of yourself. ENFORCEMENT We regret that enforcement has to be so firm, but past experience with recalcitrant members has proved it necessary. Disregarding these rules may result in a warning from the admin or moderators, depending upon the degree of the offense. Repeated violations will incur temporary suspension of posting privileges for a time felt to be proportionate to the offense, future instances of the same offense will result in banning—removal of all access to the board. Deliberate breaking of these rules, personal attacks, aggressive obscenity, or violent and abusive language toward a member or even a non-member may result in immediate banning without warning.
  11. Forum Guidelines and Rules of Engagement

    Having administrated the Wormwood Society's 3000-member forum for 11 years, I have some insights I learned the hard way. • Registration of new members - What (if any) information should be required to register? For here? Real civil name, i.e. the one on your ID, and the actual city where you live. If registering as a distiller, add the DSP number and a working phone number. As I said in the other thread, there's no legitimate need for anonymity in a group such as ours, we're supposed to be professionals. When I validate registrations at WS, if they're not filled out properly in full, they simply get deleted. This policy is noted and explained in the pre-registration text; if someone still wants to be a smart-ass and ignore it, they simply get deleted before they waste any more of our time. • Can everyone registered immediately post in the general sections of the forum, or should they be given read-only status until further vetted? At WS we have it set so that the first post must be approved by a moderator before it becomes visible on the forum. Once the first post is approved, all others automatically show up when posted. This addresses the next two points. • If you suggested read-only, then what further vetting should be required for posting in the general sections? • Should this forum be monitored and posts approved by a moderator before being posted? • Should this forum be open to anyone wishing to express an idea, with no monitoring or approvals? I feel that would be entirely unproductive and distract from our actual purpose. We're a professional organization, not a news site comment section. I think the public section of the forum should be open to anyone—distiller or not—who wants to participate in good faith, but we need to be able to screen out trolls and spammers. • What guidelines should we adopt to keep dialog open but civil? That's a tough one. There will always be people who balk at any restrictions as being some form of "censorship", but this isn't publicly owned space; we have the right to moderate discussions. At the Wormwood Society we have a basic "Be Polite. Have Respect. Be nice, or go away" policy with other guidelines delineating proper online etiquette for those who may be new to online discussion in general, or those who may be new to mission-based discussions. When WS was founded the online absinthe world was like the wild west, and pretty much run by ruffians and hooligans, mostly hobbyist distillers and bootleggers. The WS was founded to serve the general public and to be more inviting and convivial, hoping to bring absinthe into the mainstream and work for legalization. There was a lot of angry push-back from thugs for the first couple of years, but here we are about to celebrate our 12th anniversary, absinthe is back, and the thugs have become irrelevant. I'll paste our full set of rules and detailed explanations below. Keeping in mind that the language was geared toward a very different audience, if the Board wishes, I'd be happy to re-work these into a format that's appropriate for WDG. • What must be in place (besides being a paid member or having approval from the board) to post to the paid membership sections of the forum? I think once we've verified the person's identity and permit status, they should be good to go. • What else should we consider to keep this forum healthy and active? The forum software is long overdue for an upgrade. When I installed it, it was a free version of the software I use at WS and therefore isn't licensed. Since it's so far out of date, it may also be vulnerable to hacker exploits. I'd recommend the Board purchase a license directly ($175 set-up, then $25 every six months) so that we can upgrade and take advantage of the new features available, such as social media integration (sharing posts or topics to FB, Twitter, etc.). Since Facebook has taken over the internet, all other online social venues have taken a hit. If we can leverage social integration with FB and twitter, we can engage with folks who wouldn't otherwise find the forums. I'd like to see more general public involvement here, reserving the nuts-and-bolts discussions for the membership section, but allowing more interaction between distillers and our fan base.. I hope some of this may be helpful.
  12. A new consumer education resource for local craft distilleries

    I got precisely the same email last night. RJ, I wasn't insinuating anything, and meant no offense with my comment (hence the smiley winky face); I apologize if my remark made you uncomfortable. I was just commenting on the fact that you said you agreed with my stance, but your user name here is "RiverSands Distillery", not RJ Horn. My point was that I believe we should all be using our real names as user names.
  13. A new consumer education resource for local craft distilleries

    Does that mean you're going to use your real name here? ;)
  14. A new consumer education resource for local craft distilleries

    That's just the privacy proxy company. I'm going to reiterate my position on usernames: there is no legitimate reason for anonymity in our context here. Our user names should be our actual names. If we want to let people know our company affiliation, that's what signature lines are for. On the original topic, I think that the language on the site is neglectful and unnecessarily pejorative toward bottlers and brand owners. The whole "craft" narrative has been dominated by grain-to-glass distillers who have effectively demonized anyone who doesn't follow their model. If I had to guess, I'd bet 95% of the whisky ever sold in this country has been re-branded. Honesty and misleading branding/marketing are the only principles in question.
  15. A new consumer education resource for local craft distilleries

    This is why I always push for using real names. He shouldn't have been validated for membership, because he gave a false name and phone number when registering. As for the paid member part, this was posted in the public section of the forum, so it's open to anyone as long as they respect the rules. Which this guy didn't. His IP address says he's in Los Angeles.